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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: Time Out's "50 Greatest Animated Films" Reply with quote

http://www.timeout.com/film/features/show-feature/8835/time-outs-50-greatest-animated-films-curated-by-terry-gilliam.html

List includes Fritz the Cat and Lord of the Rings. Why'd they include half a movie when Ralph made better complete ones?

And the comment Gilliam makes about LOTR clearly proves that he has his head up his ass. When you're the guy who is infamous for NEVER being able to bring a movie in under budget, you shouldn't say that someone is "more ambitious than the money allowed". Baron Munchhausen cost $50 million to produce when the budget was originally supposed to be $23 million. And Gilliam freely admitted that he made that piece of shit, The Brothers Grimm, purely for financial gain. Asshole!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think the whole list is a load of crap. Who would put Robin Hood above Pinocchio?! Pinocchio is a masterpiece while the former is just mediocre.

However, I do agree with their assessment of Richard Linklater's Waking Life; it's talky, although it has an interesting point of view. it just has nothing to do with what animation is about, which is invoking life into characters. I felt the film would have been stronger if it had been mostly done with regular live-action, and then transition into the squiggly gloss look.

I agree that they should have put on other Bakshi films, but I guess these are the ones he's most well-known for outside of the animation/Bakshi community. Personally, I think Heavy Traffic, Coonskin, or American Pop ahould have been on there.

However, I like that they included The Incredibles, which I feel is a fantastic movie.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gilliam must be getting old - he prefers Wall-E to LotRs? Seriously...? Bizarre...

Oh, and he never read the books. Sez so in the interview that's on "Lost In La Mancha" - what does he mean "some of my favorite stories..."?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pre-Raphaelite wrote:
Gilliam must be getting old - he prefers Wall-E to LotRs? Seriously...? Bizarre...

Oh, and he never read the books. Sez so in the interview that's on "Lost In La Mancha" - what does he mean "some of my favorite stories..."?


I personally think Gilliam put down Ralph because Terry Gilliam is a friend of R. Crumb, so that's why he said Ralph ruined his favorite stories or such.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pre-Raphaelite wrote:
Gilliam must be getting old - he prefers Wall-E to LotRs? Seriously...? Bizarre...

Oh, and he never read the books. Sez so in the interview that's on "Lost In La Mancha" - what does he mean "some of my favorite stories..."?


Ralph was not involved in any way with adapting The Hobbit, the book Gilliam actually read. Maybe he had a LSD flashback and thought he saw a Ralph Bakshi film of The Hobbit.

CartoonFan56 wrote:
I personally think Gilliam put down Ralph because Terry Gilliam is a friend of R. Crumb, so that's why he said Ralph ruined his favorite stories or such.


That doesn't make any sense. If that were the case, Gilliam would be trashing Fritz the Cat, not LOTR. The only connection that I can see is that they've both had material published in Help!

Even people who've had connections with Crumb - and continued to work with him afterward - like Harvey Pekar - told him to chill out.
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